That's the title of this thread suggested by Chevy454, who loaned me his Wad Wizard Supreme to do some comparison pattern tests with some different loads.

As the testing samples, gun and shells, are small don't be tempted to assume the results posted here are going to be the same if shot from a different gun, different choke or different shells.

This is the 1 1/16 oz. load of 2's using a 2 3/4" Multimetal and 3" Active case, at approximately 1600 fps. shot from the Wad Wizard at 40 yards. This is the same load I previously shot with the .675" and .665" Terror Chokes.

The test gun is a 26" barreled Nova.  I will pattern some factory loads, those listed below, and Chevy454 is trying to send me some Estates he shoots.

The 78% pattern was shot with the .675" tube. The 82% pattern was shot with the .665" tube.

I have one more set of patterns to post with my handloads, the 1 3/16 oz. load of BBB's in the TPS wad, then I will begin with factory loads.

I expect the WW to perform better with the factory loads than it did with my handloads as the factory loads are heavier shot charges at lower velocities. The reports I have previously read have generally indicated the WW performs well with the steel and Hevishot loads slower than 1450 fps.

Right now I have three each of the following factory loads: 2 3/4" Win. Expert 1 1/8 oz. #4; 3" Fed. 1 1/4 oz. #2; Kent Faststeel 3.5" 1 3/8 oz. #1; Kent Fasteel 3.5" 1 3/8 oz. BB. Thanks to Rob Muter of Auglaize County, OH for supplying me with the factory loads.

The two Kent loads are considered high velocity loads, although the one I chrono'd previously ran slightly less than 1500 fps. I will try to shoot these over the chronograph as I pattern them.

Right now we have high winds and spitting snow so I may only be able to post the results of my BBB handload test until the weather improves.

This begins part two of the choke and load patterning comparisons. These are with some slower factory loads than previously tested. All shots were fired from a 26" barreled Nova at 40 yards. Velocities of loads tested were 3" from the first screen of a Chrony Beta Master chronograph. Where movement of the circle slightly would have picked up a pellet or two, I added the pellets to the count to avoid penalizing the shot count by my drawing the circle a little off from what would have generated the highest pellet count.

Thanks. I have some more pattern papers to mark and lots more holes to count. So far, I have reached the same general conclusion, the .665" tends to do well with the lighter higher velocity loads. When the shot charge weight has increased, and velocities dropped, the .675" usually delivered better patterns.

The weather was good today, so after the first round of Sporting Clays in five months, I and a friend shot some patterns out of his 28" barreled SBE, using the .675" Terror choke, factory Mod. and factory IC chokes. We used Kent Faststeel 1 3/8 oz. 3.5" 1's and Winchester HV 1 3/8 oz. BB's at 40 yards. These were 3.5" loads. We chrono'd one of each. The Kent chrono'd 1495 fps. and the Winchster chrono'd 1515 fps. at 3 ft. We shot 1 1/16 oz. 3's at 25 yards using the .675" Terror tube, factory Mod. and factory IC.

For those not having already read a comparison between the Terror tubes and Briley extended Mod, and Hastings Xfull for T& F shot, the following is a link to that thread:

I can't get it to link,so the title of the thread is: Performance Comparison Between Terror Chokes, Briley Choke and Hastings Choke

I told Drundel I would shoot some of my dove loads through the .675" Terror choke and post pics. of them. I use 1 1/8 oz. loads of 7 1/2 shot at a nominal 1470 fps. to keep the change from lead load leads to steel load leads to a minimum. The first shot is of a 1 1/4 oz. load of lead 6's, at a nominal 1220 fps., the classic live pigeon load fired at 40 yards through the .675" Terror. None of these shots were chronographed, but the stated velocities are from previous chronograph tests of them.

Over on the Goose Hunting forum a fellow made the statement that he had downed two greenwing teal at approximately 70 paces and a gadwall at slightly over 60 paces using his Pattern Master choke tube and 1 1/4 oz. Estate shells. For my edification, as I did not test any shots further than 50 yards for Drundel, I fired four shots at 65 yards with 3" Estate 1 1/4 oz. 3's and 2 shots with B&P 1 1/4 oz. 2's, using the .675" Terror choke. The B&P shells had given consistently good patterns at 40 yards, averaging around 84% for three shots, the Estates were more variable, one just under 70% and the other around 87%.

OHIO WILDFOWLER sent me three Federal 3", 1 1/4 oz. Premium steel BB shells to pattern at 40 yards.

Although BB's at this speed would not be my first choice for geese or ducks, this is the first time I have chrono'd Federal steel shot loads and they actually came close to or exceeded published data. Maybe Federal has changed it's ways. If 25 fps. were added to the two slowest loads for 2.5 inches of barrel length shorter than 30", they would be almost on the published velocity of 1450 fps.